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Check out this website. Ford lists why the 6.0 is better than the Dmax or CDT with what I think are poor arguments. Not to mention the picture of the chevy isnt even a full size truck. Who do they think their fooling?

http://www.powerstrokediesel.com/index.asp?PageId=146

The Cummins engine uses an air intake grid heater as a cold starting aid while Power Stroke® Diesel uses electronically controlled glow plugs which provide faster and more reliable starting in cold weather

Bull crap. I have heard on the forums over and over that the Cummins seems to handle cold starts better than the Fords.

When I was in West Yellowstone in Janruary with 0-5* temps the 4 Ford PSDs that were in our group struggled to get their idle smoothed out. My dad's Ram fired right up like it was a summer afternoon.

Geez! There is a whole mess of parts on that 6.0. :doah: Too bad they didn't say:

Disclaimer: The Ford Powerstroke 6.0 will no longer be in production for the 2007 year. It couldn't quite cut it. rotfl

ROFL Duramax diesel’s oil pan and intake manifold are secured with silicone sealant making removal very difficult. Power Stroke® Diesel employs an easy to remove, reusable continuous O-ring seal for faster, easier service That is just too easy ..... so just how often do Ford owners have to remove the intake and oil pan?

I'm a Ford guy and even I didn't really like that comparative advertisment!! C'mon Ford!!

That's just plain embarrassing for Ford... Whoever came up with the idea and/or implementation of that site should loose their job.

Geez! There is a whole mess of parts on that 6.0. :doah: Too bad they didn't say:

Disclaimer: The Ford Powerstroke 6.0 will no longer be in production for the 2007 year. It couldn't quite cut it. rotfl


im not sure if you know it or not, but the 6.0 cannot meet emissions standards for the 2007-2008 year. Thats the reason why ts being discontinued.

Ford sure could have made some better points, they dropped the ball "again"

Not to bring up old stuff, but at least when international posted thier comparason between the cummins and the t444e they made some excellent points and true comparisons between the two and really told it like it was.

even international refers to the 6.0 as thier economical engine choice, that statement alone is enough for me not to want one.

Bull crap. I have heard on the forums over and over that the Cummins seems to handle cold starts better than the Fords.

When I was in West Yellowstone in Janruary with 0-5* temps the 4 Ford PSDs that were in our group struggled to get their idle smoothed out. My dad's Ram fired right up like it was a summer afternoon.

I cant speak for the 6.0, but i have never had any problems starting my truck in below 0 weather, always fired up quick fast and in a hurry. I also have never experienced getting my idle smoothed out when cold.

My duramax always fired up fast too in the cold. I dont have any experience with the cummins so I cant say either way. But i do know that the ford 7.3 and the duramax fire right up in below 0 weather without any struggles.

I can confirm that on the DMax. I got stuck in an over-night in a snow/ice blizard with no heater and no grill cover. Got up that morning at something like -5* ambient! :eek: Figured I would have the devil to pay getting it going. It *might* have turned over 2 extra times before it lit, and then settled into a smooth even idle... Then again, it has that new fangled advanced technology; glow plugs... :rolleyes: And it had no problems keeping temp going down the road either. I can't imagine how cold it would have to be to need those things, maybe in Canada or Alaska...

Sheesh, that is very poor advertising for even the novice diesel head.

A lot of heresay and not much fact.......To paraphrase a quote : "The 6.0 PS makes 15 more hp and is therefore better".rotfl

"The 6.0 PS runs 0-60 in 12.8 seconds, the Dmax in 12.9....the PS is better".

And the glow plug - grid heater comparison is just laughable!

Or how about the servicability of the filters comparison?rotfl Couldn't help but notice they didn't want to give a cost comparison of those filters, either!!

Way to go Ford!!waytogo waytogo

That's just plain embarrassing for Ford... Whoever came up with the idea and/or implementation of that site should loose their job.

i agree, and get the facts right. 6-speed manual for an Cheby, 610lbs of TQ for a cummins, i can keep going...

that site is all bs, the fords dont even come pair to the d-max , i raced my friend and both of are trucks are stock, and he has a 6.0 ford and i got a lly gmc, i smoked his ass, so i dont know why ford is so happy about there 0-60 time .

Dang! I wish I hadn't seen that site, now I gotta go get Ferdrotfl

Ford is grasping at straws since they swaped to the 6.0 hopefuly the 6.4 will be better a whole lot better once they get it released:popcorn:

Also the Dog is just gay lets load up and send him to the sick puppies home

Gride Heater, Glow plugs who care I plug my truck in when it gets cold. put a KImStart on your truck.

Not trying to rain on the PS parade but if it's for emmision reasons why is Ford giving a $2500 rebate for the 2003-2006 PS owners to trade them in for the model with the new engine. I know it don't get cold here as it does every where else but i don't have to use my wait to start or nothing even when it icy here. I know the Fords on our lease wouldn't do that but hey to each his own. I like to be able to hit the key and not have to wait to turn the heater on.:stir:

2004 PS 70mph just shut off. 2005 PS went into store it just died wouldn't start back up. 2005 PS 15,000 miles injectors ****. I don't think it's cause of the emmision requirements that it's going away. I think it's cause it wasn't all they thought it would be, personally.

Geez! There is a whole mess of parts on that 6.0. :doah: Too bad they didn't say:

Disclaimer: The Ford Powerstroke 6.0 will no longer be in production for the 2007 year. It couldn't quite cut it. rotfl

actually it was only short lived due to emissions they all are upping the displacemnt to make up for loss of hp from the new emissions gear.
yes they knew it was coming but all three acted like it was not going to happen
bunch of dummies.

All three have a new engine for 2007. Ford 6.4, Dodge 6.7, and Chevy LMM. The change of all the motors is because of the more stringent emissions in 2007. The 6.0 couldn't meet emisions nor could the 5.9 cummins. If you think otherwise you are a :doah: .This article I think was from 2003 when the 6.0 made it's debute. The comparrison could have been alot better. The 6.0 I agree is probably the weakest motor of the BIG THREE. However if you want a real truck (NO IFS B.S.) and a real crewcab (QUAD CAB doesn't count) then the Ford is the only choice. Dodge didn't introduce the Megacab till late 2005,2006 and only had a 4 speed auto till this year.

ROFL That is just too easy ..... so just how often do Ford owners have to remove the intake and oil pan?
...and they forgot to mention that YOU HAVE TO PULL THE CAB OFF THE FRAME to remove almost any major component from a Ford 6."oh no"...I wouldn't call that "easy service"...:doah:

Just imagine the work space now with two turbos.

i really wish there werent the bad 6.0's out there that made all of them get the bad rap. really that engine is so fast and tows like a beast, but its over looked because theres those out there with problems...its sad. but i think everyones mind will be changed with the 6.4.

i really wish there werent the bad 6.0's out there that made all of them get the bad rap. really that engine is so fast and tows like a beast, but its over looked because theres those out there with problems...its sad. but i think everyones mind will be changed with the 6.4.
Don't get me wrong I love my truck. I love the 6.0 in my truck. I have had no problems with it. My statements of it being the weakest of the three is based on tuner use only. Stock I think all three are very equal. They all have their pros and cons.

Same way with cars or trucks everyone has pro's and con's reguardless of what some may say get what you want cause you will be the one paying for it free advice after all is free.

not much on technical stuff, but I don't understand how something can get worse fuel milage and be commended on being more efficient and better?


I had a 98.5 that got upwards of 22 mpg on the interstate and now have an 07 that gets less than 15 mpg on the interstate

same driver with the same driving habbits but my 07 is is mo-betta??

not on my back pocket!!!!!!!!!:eek:

thank god! someone else like me!!! mine has never gotten better than 15 mpg on the hwy! and ive got 33000 miles. although i have the 4.10's and you have 3.73's.....you should be gettin better than me...