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Just curious, anyone have or tow with a Nissan Titan?

Don't own one but have driven one, very nice. Good power, lots of cutting edge features and "why didn't I think of that" ideas throughout. IMO, probably the best 1/2 ton truck on the market, if you can stand the styling. Huge interior. I would definately reccomend the lower axle gears if you're going to pull anything. Look for a 3/4 ton in a year or two, possibly with a diesel. As a side note, the new generation Tundra should be out as an '07. I've read that a HD version will be available, and possibly a dually model. Look for a larger gas engine and a turbodiesel with around 700ft lb of torque. Not sure how much truth is in what I've read, but definately something to look for.

Yeah, I have heard the rumors on the Toyota's, interesting.

Not interested in them personally.....It's got to be a Dodge, Ford, or GM for me.

I understand the whole support the big three mentality, to each their own. However, the pickups manufactured by Toyota and Nissan are built in america, by american workers, using parts sourced by the same manufacturers as the big three. In many cases, the american content of the "import trucks" is higher than the domestics. I want my money to support families, not giant multinational corparations that do nothing to support working class america. The way I see it, the same number of blue collar families are going to get a piece of my coin no matter who's truck I purchase. If I'm going to spend tens of thousands of dollars on a new vehicle, I want to purchase the very best one that I can, regardless of brand. IMO, The big three have never been able to build a pickup that has the build quality and reliability of Toyota or Nissan. Now that Toyota and Nissan are beginning to build real full size trucks, they can become an option for those of us who actually need to tow and haul with our rigs. The main saving grace for the big three is the huge rebates and low financing that they offer on their trucks in order to keep them selling.

I understand the whole support the big three mentality, to each their own. However, the pickups manufactured by Toyota and Nissan are built in america, by american workers, using parts sourced by the same manufacturers as the big three. In many cases, the american content of the "import trucks" is higher than the domestics. I want my money to support families, not giant multinational corparations that do nothing to support working class america I know about all that and I don't really care. I don't care where the parts are made and who puts them together, too a point. Regardless, the first truck Ford, Chevy, and Dodge ever built was here in America, not Toyota or the rest of their mini pickups.

The reason why I support the big three is because they are the only ones that have been building 3/4ton and 1 ton pickups, especially with diesels, when Toyota and the rest of the asian manufacturers wouldn't bother with anything bigger than a dorky Four Runner. The big three have been building trucks that are actually HD enough to be used for the purposes me and all of my neighboring farmers use our trucks for, The asians never bothered to care about us years back for our HD pickup needs....it's our turn to repay them.

The asians never bothered to care about us years back for our HD pickup needs....it's our turn to repay them.

What in the hell are you talking about? The reason they never imported anything larger than a minitruck is because of the restrictions and tariffs on them. Why do you think that in order to sell fullsizes in the US, they have to build them here. The T-100 is a perfect example. It was a $35,000+ midsize truck, because of all the regulations and restrictions put on it when importing them. Just because they arent sold here doesnt mean the Jap's dont know what they are doing, or havent been building heavier duty trucks.

Toyota even tried to get arround the tariff's and regulations in the 80's by building 1-ton rated minitrucks, they had a 2600 pound payload rating, towing capacity of 5K pounds, but was still a minitruck. Obviously it didnt sell very well, and was dropped because of this. People who wanted to be able to haul 2600 pounds werent about to buy a dinky little Jap truck.

I'm talking about that the fact that they never produced any real 1 ton or 3/4 ton here in the states. I don't care what they built in asianville, I don't live there. Chevy, Dodge, and GM have been building diesel pickups for years here inthe states and I'm not about to buy a Toyota when they haven't. I'm sure Toyota will build a fine HD pickup (if they ever actually do) Anything that couldn't compete witht the big three's trucks would fall flat on it's face on the market and I'm sure they now that.

For me it's about sticking with what I know and prefer. It would be like someone in a small town that had been going to the same small coffee shop every morning for years for a cup of coffee and recieved good service, then a Starbucks pops up around the corner..... I would doubt that same fellow would change his morning routine much.

I understand the whole support the big three mentality, to each their own. However, the pickups manufactured by Toyota and Nissan are built in america, by american workers, using parts sourced by the same manufacturers as the big three. In many cases, the american content of the "import trucks" is higher than the domestics. I want my money to support families, not giant multinational corparations that do nothing to support working class america. The way I see it, the same number of blue collar families are going to get a piece of my coin no matter who's truck I purchase. If I'm going to spend tens of thousands of dollars on a new vehicle, I want to purchase the very best one that I can, regardless of brand. IMO, The big three have never been able to build a pickup that has the build quality and reliability of Toyota or Nissan. Now that Toyota and Nissan are beginning to build real full size trucks, they can become an option for those of us who actually need to tow and haul with our rigs. The main saving grace for the big three is the huge rebates and low financing that they offer on their trucks in order to keep them selling.

Yea but with all the money that the Japanese three(toyohondissan) make in america, they do not even reinvest any of that money back into america it goes straight to japan. Oh and please dont try and feed us that reliability garbage go look for yourself at how much GM( i didnt bother to look at dodge or ford cause i dont care) has improved. Its quality is higher than nissan and on par with toyota.

The Japanese machines are very well engineered and built. I had an '81(?) Datsun King cab that never had a problem, and ran forever (300,000 miles+). I just traded my '03 Tundra for my Dodge. I wouldn't go back for various reasons (I really needed a full sized truck that could TOW), but I will say this; for what it could do, and I was often surprised by its capabilities, the truck never failed to satisfy, never had a problem, was a pleasure to drive and was worth every penny. It reeked of quality.
So does my new Dodge.
But it's a real TRUCK! :D

Just bought a 2005 Titan King Cab this weekend... have'nt towed with it yet.. got the tow pkg and its rated to tow 9200 lbs! The engines are rated 305hp 379tq... coupled with a 5 speed auto and Dana rear axles. The tow pkg gave me a rear ratio equiviallant (sp) to a 4spd 4:10 ratio, it also has a tranny temp guage... I heard great reviews ref. its towing ability, I'll post up after I get it broke in and tow a few times. waytogo

Bobby won't buy a Jap truck built by Americans but would buy a Dodge truck built in Mexico? :confused: :rolleyes: :eek: :stir: :stir: :popcorn: rotfl

Dana rear axle, which size I wonder? Nice to see a tranny temp gauge factory, wheres the pics? Want to see the interior.

Bobby won't buy a Jap truck built by Americans but would buy a Dodge truck built in Mexico? :confused: :rolleyes: :eek: :stir: :stir: :popcorn: rotfl
Hey, what's wrong with my German owned, built in Mexico with parts from asia Dodge? rotfl
Edit - Not sure on the parts from Asia but it wouldn't surprise me. :rolleyes:

Its a Dana 44 IIRC

I'm away from home until Monday... I'll post up some pics then.... waytogo

Here's the pics... also the service dept. confirmed the axle is a D44...
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As you can see in the last photo the half doors open 168 deg, back to the bed... it's easy to load stuff waytogo

Steve,,,

I couldnt help it.. a friend got sideways in a new titan cc 4 x 4.... he had bought two trucks for cash and then immediately hit the financial skids... I picked this one up for 20k with 3500 miles on it... list was 39k... real life selling for about 30.. although I dont imagine they are worth it...

It is a very powerful peppy truck... this one has the volant intake and banks monster exhaust on it from the dealer... they charged him 1500.00 on the invoice...ouch

They havent seen much towing as the fleet yet... who knows how theyll do.. but for a car/truck its really nice... roomy.. well thought out...
the d44 is has shown to be problematic during the first production run and a lot have blown up, mostly the electronic lockers but a number of open diff ones as well (pin coming loose in the carrier...theres a tsb on it). Mine and the later runs have synthetic oil and aluminum finned diff covers... band aids that wont work... who knows what the eventual fix will be

there is also a major tsb on the front brakes that are warping... tsb gets you new thicker rotors, new calipers ,new rear discs...etc... but nissan isnt squeaking and up'd the warranty on this tsb for fleet to 5 yrs/50 k I believe

and lastly a minor tsb letter that just went out on the tow harness... I havent seen it yet so Im not sure what the problem is...

I was lucky...the dealer saw my buddy coming and sold him everything... so I have a 7 yr/100k gold preferred warranty... they'll get tired of me :)

I joined a TITAN specific forum... there one or two good ones out there... but alot of the people dont know anything about vehicles... very different from here and ck5


cam

Imports have been paying my mortage for 7 years now. So they can't be that great. I honestly think people who own imports are brain washed to think that hey run for ever. The 3.0L that was in I beleive 89-95 or 96 toyota pick-ups and 4 runners was garbage. Guttless, not much better fuel mileage than a 350 Chevy and plagued with headgasket problems. Stevens Creek Toyota had mechanics around the clock trying to keep up with them. Honda has had auto trans. problems for the last 4 years. Ignitor, Distributor, and Fuel pump problems for years as well. Have a fleet company with 15 Toyota tacomas. 6 of them has had #1 cylinder lose compression at about 100K. I have plenty of cust. with well over 200K on there Ford, Chevy, or Dodge. I personally used to laugh at those Toyotas that said 1TON on the back with the same little six lug wheels. And Yet an American 3/4 or 1 Ton is basically a completey different drivetrain from a 1/2 ton. From what I have read in the papers one of the main problems is Ford and Chevy will catch hell for leaving Detroit and the Auto Workers Union. But these Japanese companies are building plants in a less exspensive area and do not have to join any type of union. GM and Ford pay someone $20 after benefits and taxes it is costing them $30 or more per hour. Where Hyundai and the such can go somewhere in the south pay someone $15 and not pay medical, dental or 401K. I have a friend working at Nissan and I asked him how the trucks are actually holding up being they can tow 9500 lbs(with such a puny rearend). He told me they are having all kinds of issues and people are still buyimg them. He said mostly the buyers are parents buying them for there kids but I'm sure there are some of the older generation buying the also. I'm with RJF'S REDCUMMINS. I'll only own FORD, CHEVY, DODGE.

i traded my '04 titan in on my dodge about 3 weeks ago. i had more problems with that truck than all of the cars i have ever had put in to one. it was a good truck when it ran and it did have alot of power, again when it ran. i wouldnt buy another one because of the problems i had. when you have 4 sets of engine computers and a rear axle replaced before you have 8000 miles on a vehicle, it tends to sour you a little. also, when i towed my k5 with it, it tends to need about 5 times the brakes that nissan gave it. and yes i had the tow package.

ryan

Congrats on the new truck. The cummins is an awesome motor. I am hoping to buy a new truck when my wife goes back to work. I'm not sure what I am going to buy yet though. I know a diesel from one of the big three.

My wife has an 03 Tundra with a 4.7 Limited Pkg it has been a great truck never starting to fail and never having any issues other than a recall on the ball joint.The four wheel drive works wonderfuly in the mud,snow or rocks it is a great truck I like it and its nice to drive but lacks a truck feel when gong down the road.

I got a 05 SD with a 5.4 Triton crew cab and long bed FX4 pkg and Tow/Haul yeah I thought I was going to get a Power Stroke or a V10 but like my wife I found a great deal and happened to be very angry at the Ford dealership in town so went to a import lot and got a good deal on it.

I'm a big fan of domestic and imports both domestic trucks cant be beat they have been in the game longer and I feel Toy/Hon/Niss could take come buisness away but wouldnt own all the game the big three will win that battle.Go to your local CO-OP or TSS and look in the parking lot more of the trucks will be domestic on farms or for companys and the imports will belong to the pretty boy type who just wanted a big truck to haul his four wheel or lawn mower.No offense to import owners.:pimp:

I understand the whole support the big three mentality, to each their own. However, the pickups manufactured by Toyota and Nissan are built in america, by american workers, using parts sourced by the same manufacturers as the big three. In many cases, the american content of the "import trucks" is higher than the domestics. I want my money to support families, not giant multinational corparations that do nothing to support working class america. The way I see it, the same number of blue collar families are going to get a piece of my coin no matter who's truck I purchase. If I'm going to spend tens of thousands of dollars on a new vehicle, I want to purchase the very best one that I can, regardless of brand. IMO, The big three have never been able to build a pickup that has the build quality and reliability of Toyota or Nissan. Now that Toyota and Nissan are beginning to build real full size trucks, they can become an option for those of us who actually need to tow and haul with our rigs. The main saving grace for the big three is the huge rebates and low financing that they offer on their trucks in order to keep them selling.

sir, were you on drugs when you wrote this? toyota has been taken off the consumer report rating's list of recommended vehicles due to the poor quality of their vehicles. the big three have never, ever been once removed from this list.

The Nissan rear-end is weak. And they are going out quite often. I had a Nissan parts manager come into my shop and I asked him a few months ago and he told me not to buy one. I wasn't asking for me it was for a friend. He said they have a lot of problems. And I think it was in Four Wheeler mag. they said Nissan is thinking a diesel for it since it's sales are dropping and it isn't meeting the expectations Nissan thought it would. Look at the rea-end in a Titan. I think the Ford ranger has a bigger rear-end. And from what I have heard and seen the new Tundra is garbage also. But, they do have a 10.5" rear-end.

sir, were you on drugs when you wrote this? toyota has been taken off the consumer report rating's list of recommended vehicles due to the poor quality of their vehicles. the big three have never, ever been once removed from this list.

You want to go ahead and actually read the article before you spout your BS?

The four-cylinder and hybrid versions of the Camry and hybrid, rear-drive version of the GS scored above average in reliability and will continue to be Recommended. Despite these problems, Toyota (including Lexus and Scion) still ranks third in reliability among all automakers, behind only Honda and Subaru. Still, because of these findings, CR will no longer recommend any new or redesigned Toyota-built models without reliability data on a specific design. Previously, new and redesigned Toyota models were recommended because of the automaker's excellent track record, even if CR didn't have sufficient reliability data on the new model. If Toyota returns to its previous record of outstanding overall reliability, CR may resume this practice. Typically, CR will only recommend a vehicle if the magazine has at least one year of reliability data for that specific model.



They werent removed from anything, CR is stating that they wont recommend them before knowing anything about the cars, which IMHO is a damn good idea, everybody makes mistakes and many of times there are first year issues. You dont see ANY domestics ranking high enough in reliability, reguardless of the leaps forward they have taken, to be recommended before they are even on the streets. Heres a little more from the same article for you.

Despite Ford's improvement, U.S. brands account for almost half the models--20 of 44--on CR's list of "Least Reliable" models. Thirteen are from General Motors, 6 from Chrysler, and 1 from Ford. European makes account for 17 models, including six each from Mercedes-Benz and Volkswagen/Audi. Not all models carrying Asian nameplates are reliable, either. The Hyundai Entourage, Infiniti QX56, Mazda CX-7, Nissan Armada (4WD), Quest, and Titan (4WD), and Toyota Tundra (V8, 4WD) are all on the "Least Reliable" list.


Besides the three Toyota-built models, other notable models with declining reliability include the Chevrolet Tahoe, GMC Yukon, and Volkswagen Passat (V6).

You want to go ahead and actually read the article before you spout your BS?




They werent removed from anything, CR is stating that they wont recommend them before knowing anything about the cars, which IMHO is a damn good idea, everybody makes mistakes and many of times there are first year issues. You dont see ANY domestics ranking high enough in reliability, reguardless of the leaps forward they have taken, to be recommended before they are even on the streets. Heres a little more from the same article for you.
go to hell, nissan an and toyota are over rated crap. thier ugly and are weak. and i got my info from pickuptrucks dot com. none of those others have the time tested , farm used , heavy haulin , beat the hell up proof of the big tree. you cannot just make a new truck and say its the best ever.

and yes, the toyota truck has been taken of the crr due to tranny problems, tailgates falling off, and the engine blocks cracking

To begin, this post is several years old, and when it was originally posted the Titan was a relatively new and unproven platform. I was giving my initial impressions of it based on a test drive. I will agree, that the reliability of the Titan has proven to be less than stellar in the years since it was released.

The previous generation Tundra is/ was an outstanding reliable truck. I've driven/ beat on several as work trucks without any mechanical issues at all.

I've also owned/ driven/ beat on many older model Toyotas and Nissan compact trucks and SUVs and they tend to be more reliable than their Domestic counterparts.

Am I biased? Look at my screenname, I've owned several Chevies, the majority being 88-98 IFS rigs, and they have been plenty reliable for me. I also bought an 07 Silverado Classic.

I have had less luck with Furds, though I don't have as much experience with them.

I guess I should forget my real world experience, grab some more drugs, and read pickuptruck.com.

Noob...rotfl

To begin, this post is several years old, and when it was originally posted the Titan was a relatively new and unproven platform. I was giving my initial impressions of it based on a test drive. I will agree, that the reliability of the Titan has proven to be less than stellar in the years since it was released.

The previous generation Tundra is/ was an outstanding reliable truck. I've driven/ beat on several as work trucks without any mechanical issues at all.

I've also owned/ driven/ beat on many older model Toyotas and Nissan compact trucks and SUVs and they tend to be more reliable than their Domestic counterparts.

Am I biased? Look at my screenname, I've owned several Chevies, the majority being 88-98 IFS rigs, and they have been plenty reliable for me. I also bought an 07 Silverado Classic.

I have had less luck with Furds, though I don't have as much experience with them.

I guess I should forget my real world experience, grab some more drugs, and read pickuptruck.com.

Noob...rotfl
sounds like a plan

and yes, the toyota truck has been taken of the crr due to tranny problems, tailgates falling off, and the engine blocks cracking
lol dont let my wife hear that one the thinks Yota trucks are the best, even when the pos was slipping on ice my 250 would have sailed thru...rotfl

What kind of fuel mileage does a Titan get?