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Okay so whats up with GM using what they call compression bump stops on their front suspension. From what I've seen on stock and lifted trucks the bottom arm actually sits on the bump stop. This is their way of protecting the torsion bar from sagging the front suspension. One of the suspension lift companys is now offering a larger compression stopper for a softer ride. So why have a torsion bar at all? Next your under a IFS 4x4 GM take a look rotfl
What a joke! :D

They use them because torsion bars are not progressive rate they are constant rate and that little rubber stop gives the spring a little more spring rate as it twists.

Any pics of your leaf spring conversion on the Dodge?

Any pics of your leaf spring conversion on the Dodge? I just closed the garage door from the Dodge and I'm gonna finally finish the project. I've been soo busy on other projects of mine and other peoples projects that the poor Dodge needed a chain saw to cut the spider webs to get it to roll. All that is needed is shackles and a drag link that I have already have hashed out and need to fab. How did you know about this project? Pic will come when it's DONE then the follow up story.

That rubber bump stop does'nt look like it could travel much but they don't ride bad at all as I found out today. :dunno: .

Your post made you sound like a Dodge guy, and I looked at your profile to see what you drove

I'm actually a GM guy. I just own a Dodge because of the engine. CUMMINS waytogo .

I just own a Dodge because of the engine. CUMMINS waytogo . And the better transmission, suspension, axles, brakes, seats, mirrors..... :D

And the better transmission, suspension, axles, brakes, seats, mirrors..... :D Sorry Dude but I don't agree with the axles and suspension part. I've installed leaf springs and a 78 Ford HP60 with Chevy DRW outers on the front and a 3 link with class 8 Diesel truck air bags. I can't leave anything alone rotfl :D .

And the better transmission, suspension, axles, brakes, seats, mirrors..... :D

Transmission??? rotfl Yeah right...now thats funny!!! rotfl rotfl :stir:

Transmission??? rotfl Yeah right...now thats funny!!! rotfl rotfl :stir:
No kidding! rotfl rotfl rotfl Sitting here in Portland watching it rain, eating room service, I needed that. Now I gotta go clean up my laptop screen...

:rolleyes: I would argue some of the other points as well, but that transmission comment, in the GM forum no less, is hillariously rediculous. What was it you told me in the Dodge forum when I mentioned GM stuff, "Go back to your own forum." ;) :stir:

Sorry Dude but I don't agree with the axles and suspension part. I've installed leaf springs and a 78 Ford HP60 with Chevy DRW outers on the front and a 3 link with class 8 Diesel truck air bags. I can't leave anything alone rotfl :D .
I'd like pics of this.....

Transmission??? Yeah right...now thats funny!!! Who said anything about what type of tranny?....because I'm right. Most people would concur that the NV5600 is the best tranny in the light pickup business....and it's in a Dodge. ;)

Now for autos...no...of course not.

No kidding! Sitting here in Portland watching it rain, eating room service, I needed that. Now I gotta go clean up my laptop screen...

I would argue some of the other points as well, but that transmission comment, in the GM forum no less, is hillariously rediculous. What was it you told me in the Dodge forum when I mentioned GM stuff, "Go back to your own forum."

Sorry, but I was not interested in competing with your beloved Alli.... NV5600 is all I have to say. :D

Oh, and check what forum you're in...it's brand wars...not general GM... :rolleyes:

I would argue some of the other points as well, but that transmission comment, in the GM forum no less, is hillariously rediculous. What was it you told me in the Dodge forum when I mentioned GM stuff, "Go back to your own forum." ;) :stir:

You tell him Russ. Bobby sounds more like Tiimmmaaaayyyyy (Mr. manual transmission) every day. :doah: :popcorn: :stir: waytogo rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl ;)

You tell him Russ. Bobby sounds more like Tiimmmaaaayyyyy (Mr. manual transmission) every day. :doah: :popcorn: :stir: waytogo rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl ;) Give it up, you don't even know who Tim is.

Give it up, you don't even know who Tim is.
Yes I do. You don't know who I am. :stir: rotfl rotfl rotfl

Oh, and check what forum you're in...it's brand wars...not general GM... :rolleyes:
Oops! :o Coulda swore it was in GM. Who cares, go back to your Dodge forum anyway! ;) rotfl

rotfl Sometimes I have to come down stares and mess with you IFS boys... ;)

Regarding the tranny thing....geeze...I just assumed you guys would figure I meant the NV5600 manual. Guess I should have known better with a bunch of GM guys.. :D

Children, chirldren, children......... can't we all just get along rotfl rotfl rotfl . Man if I knew it was gonna be like this I would have sold tickets :popcorn: . Thats right, I never said anything about the transmissions. As far as I'm concerned I have the best manual transmission.....well as far as the 5spd manuals go. waytogo Now as for the "stock" automatics the Allison is the only way to go. I've taken a few classes on the 1000 series and have been thinking about sliding one in behind the ol' 5.9. Those guy's are tight lipped about adapting that trans to a "non-factory" application. Oh well I guess I'll have to get-r-done and drive it to one of their classes. :stir: rotfl :pimp: .

Thats right, I never said anything about the transmissions. As far as I'm concerned I have the best manual transmission.....well as far as the 5spd manuals go. waytogo Now as for the "stock" automatics the Allison is the only way to go.

That was what I was thinking.

Manual: NV5600 (the 4500 is good too but I'm talking top dog)

Auto: Duh...Alli 1000

Regarding the tranny thing....geeze...I just assumed you guys would figure I meant the NV5600 manual. Guess I should have known better with a bunch of GM guys.. :D

How do you figure? You are ALWAYS the one dogging manual trannies saying autos are better, and trying to say the 47RE is a good tranny. Now you change your mine, just because your dad bought a 5600 equiped truck.






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One other thing, dont forget that dodge doesnt even use that tranny anymore, they dropped it. :stir:

How do you figure? You are ALWAYS the one dogging manual trannies saying autos are better, and trying to say the 47RE is a good tranny. Now you change your mine, just because your dad bought a 5600 equiped truck.






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One other thing, dont forget that dodge doesnt even use that tranny anymore, they dropped it. :stir:

What I always say is....

1. Autos are better for daily driving with moderate towing. Auto diesels are much peppier than manual rigs. For that I will always have an auto truck.

2. I think the 47RE is a fine tranny. It's not as beefy as the Alli or Torque shift but it gets the job done. I think it is undeserving of it's reputation, mainly from earlier models. I have first hand experience with this tranny because I own one and DD it. You don't.

3. As far as pure strength and reliability, the 5600 is my choice. It has nothing to do with my dad's recent purchase. I've driven more than one 5600 before my dad's truck came along. The box itself has pretty much no weaknesses from the factory that I can think of, easily handles the power of a 24V regardless of mods, and lasts about as long as the engine does. It's clutch isn't real impressive but isn't bad. It is slow though, I like the strength factor of them, but couldn't stand to DD a 5600 truck in day to day traffic.

4. I know Dodge doesn't use the 5600 any more, that figures as much with Dodge. Do away with something that was one of their truck's best assets. I'm dissapointed with the new Dodge lineups, the mega cab is dumb.

I will agree with you on the 5600 being the best. I just saw an open door with the tranny comment and had to barge in!! waytogo :D

Well barge away. waytogo :popcorn: :stir: