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Old Posted 04-06-2005, 12:33 AM
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Cleaner, low Sulfer Diesel fuel...

So whats the story on getting cleaner lower Sulfer Diesel fuel etc.. in 06 or 07? I know new emmisions take place in 07, does this mean we are getting better fuel then also, whats the scoop?
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Old Posted 04-06-2005, 07:16 AM in reply to coloradok5's post "Cleaner, low Sulfer Diesel fuel..."
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"Better fuel" is a matter of opinion. The reason for the new fuel is os they can use new technology to reduce emissions, the sulfer in US diesel prevents the use of particulate filters (and maybe some other technologies, not sure though) that they use in Europe. Europe already has low sulfer fuel. The downside is that the lubricity of low sulfer is much worse than the high sulfer that we have now, so longevity might suffer if we don't use lubricity agents in every tank. This is my limited understanding of it...
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Will this extra process raise the price of Diesel fuel even more?
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Old Posted 04-06-2005, 01:57 PM in reply to coloradok5's post starting "Will this extra process raise the price..."
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Will this extra process raise the price of Diesel fuel even more?
It did when California went to it.
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Old Posted 04-06-2005, 02:04 PM in reply to Super Trucker's post starting "It did when California went to it."
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It did when California went to it.
Fuel is more expensive in Oregon and Washington right now, but I imagine with the whole country goes low sulfer there will be a price hit.
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Old Posted 04-06-2005, 02:10 PM in reply to Shaggy's post starting "Fuel is more expensive in Oregon and..."
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Fuel is more expensive in Oregon and Washington right now, but I imagine with the whole country goes low sulfer there will be a price hit.
Isn't that because of a pipeline or refinery problem? The price was higher in Kali because they couldn't use fuel made to 49 state specs. If the whole country goes to Kali spec fuel the price in California should even out with the rest of the country.
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Old Posted 04-06-2005, 07:02 PM in reply to Super Trucker's post starting "Isn't that because of a pipeline or..."
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Biodiesel would solve the lubricity problem. It has much more lubricating quality than petrodiesel.
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Reason means nothing to the oil refiners. If they can find a reason to tell us they are raising the prices, they will do it. Ever notice that when oil prices go up a little, there is an immediate surge in prices, and they blame it on oil prices, but when they drop, gas prices either slowly come down a little bit, or not at all.

Plus the media is applying the vaseline for the oil companies every day when they talk about how prices are just going to go up more. Even if their costs didn't go up, they could raise prices without much fuss from us, because we were expecting it anyway.

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Old Posted 04-07-2005, 09:25 AM in reply to Super Trucker's post starting "Isn't that because of a pipeline or..."
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I thought that starting in January 05 we were getting a lower sulfer fuel. I know that the fuel is supposed to keep getting cleaner all of the time. They will probably use the refining cost as another excuse to raise prices even more.
Bio is great stuff but I don't use it simply because of cost. In my area it is .30 a gal higher and IMHO bio is not that great.
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I know in California after switching to low sulfur diesel they can't use the Alaska crude anymore due to the high sulfur content. So the oil companies export the high sulfur crude and import low sulfur crude.
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