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Old Posted 06-10-2008, 04:49 PM
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Attention Crew Cab Sleeper Owners!

The Feds deemed the CCS conversion NOT a compliant sleeper!!! Here is an email from them. Please pass this info along to any towing websites, lets try to prevent any of our friends and other haulers from getting put out of service and being fined!

From: Tyson Labbe [mailtoabbeheavyindustries@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:39 AM
To: xxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Written Consent



This just in:

The US Federal Department of transport has inspected a Crew Cab Sleeper at the Dually Depot. in Elkahart In. yesterday. The officers involved stated that they like the product and what it is designed to do for drivers. However they have to enforce the law as it is written. They determined that by the wording of the federal document 393.76 that our sleeper kits do not qualify as legal sleeper berths.

At this time there are a lot of regional and state offices still allowing the use of these kits. This may change depending on what paper work is filed federally. Now we have more work to do.

We will be lobbying governments on both sides of the border to allow the use of this type of kit. The apperent problem is the reduction of dimensions in the window insert area. Because we do not maintain 24" vertically and 24" horizontally. There is very little any one can do about this based on the size of the vehicles structural door openings.

If you or anyone you know of in this industry is serious about getting the government to allow this type of sleeper berth for current or future use we have to get moving on it now.
If you know of a contact in the government or a lobby group etc. that may be of use, please let us know. We will be fighting to get the wording changed on the sleeper berth document. Perhaps even an annual operators permit could be devised to allow one ton operators to use this type of sleeper berth. We will keep you updated as things progress.

Please let me know if you have recieved this email and any further information would always be helpfull.

Tyson L'Abbe
LABBE HEAVY INDUSTRIES
306-260-5457
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Old Posted 06-11-2008, 07:32 PM in reply to haulin-rv's post "Attention Crew Cab Sleeper Owners!"
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Just log off duty and be done with it.
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Old Posted 06-12-2008, 06:30 AM in reply to Mr. Big Ram's post starting "Just log off duty and be done with it...."
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Just log off duty and be done with it.
Nope, that will get you 2 tickets is caught sleeping in the truck. Log falsification, and sleeping in a commercial vehicle w/ no dot sleeper. Here is an example of how.

Here is how they get you and say no to sleeping in your truck.

As an example the regulations states" any time spent in or upon a CMV other then time behind the wheel or in a legal sleeper berth compartment is considered on duty not driving." Therefore, sleeping in the back seat or in the bed of the truck or in the trailer being transported is considered "on or upon" a CMV and therefore on duty not driving on the logbook. A driver found to violate this rule can be palced out of service but should be escorted to a place where legal compliance for the out of service order can be completed.

There are several states now using or you could say enforcing this.
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Old Posted 06-21-2008, 05:00 AM in reply to haulin-rv's post "Attention Crew Cab Sleeper Owners!"
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Has anybody looked into this one? http://www.woodhouse.com/truckcenter...per_berth.html

To me this one seems to make more sense.
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Old Posted 08-15-2008, 01:21 AM in reply to hottbodyz's post starting "Has anybody looked into this one?..."
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Haulin-rv what about the Woodhouse sleeper is it legal.
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Old Posted 07-03-2009, 04:46 AM in reply to hottbodyz's post starting "Has anybody looked into this one?..."
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Has anybody looked into this one? http://www.woodhouse.com/truckcenter...per_berth.html

To me this one seems to make more sense.
Doesn't $2500 bux seem a bit expensive for the relatively simple design they have there? Can't be more than $400-500 worth of parts and fabrication there.
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Old Posted 07-22-2010, 12:25 AM in reply to dwayne's post starting "Doesn't $2500 bux seem a bit expensive..."
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I agree not much there in parts for sleep..........guessing the door panels make it more legal................Is this legal?
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Old Posted 07-22-2010, 09:07 AM in reply to dwayne's post starting "Doesn't $2500 bux seem a bit expensive..."
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Doesn't $2500 bux seem a bit expensive for the relatively simple design they have there? Can't be more than $400-500 worth of parts and fabrication there.
Yeah from what they show, that berth is WAY overpriced BUT...it's the DOT cert that they are charging for I bet. Tell you what though...I would double check with DOT before I give them that kind of money...
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Old Posted 07-26-2010, 06:52 AM in reply to Artful Dodger's post starting "Yeah from what they show, that berth is..."
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As a electrical contractor I pay way to much for a simple idea (Generator interlok kits) as an example but it comes with a UL approval, Or in your case a DOT cert. They did all the work to get the cert. You could build this for alot cheaper but when they ask for the cert. doc. your screwed. Have to love DOT they are even pulling my utility trucks over and going threw them.
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Old Posted 07-26-2010, 09:27 AM in reply to Eastern's post starting "As a electrical contractor I pay way to..."
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Amazing how they hound the working guy....should be pulling over pickup loads of immigrants
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