Camping World Stores Great Diesel Oil Change Price!

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  1. Eightballsidepocket

    Eightballsidepocket Well-Known Member

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    I have a Camping World Store about 15-20 miles from my home in San Jose, California. It's in San Martin, Calif., which is South of San Jose, on Highway 101. San Martin is about half way between Morgan Hill, Ca. and Gilroy, Ca.(Garlic Capital).

    Anyway, they do all kinds of R.V. service, and I really like the store. It has a lot of items for camping/RVing.
    http://www.campingworld.com/stores/

    They have a small yearly membership fee that will allow you to get some discounts on all their items for sale.

    Anyway, I went up to there vehicle/RV service counter, and asked if they do oil changes on diesel P.U.'s, and they directed me to a pricing sign behind the part/service counter. They do diesel P.U. oil changes for $44.99. Well, that really beats out my special Dodge dealer coupons that our $59.95.

    Also the great price for the oil change is the same for members and non members alike!!

    I asked what type of oil they use, thinking it would be Delo 400, or one of the other common ones. They told me that they use Castrol Synthetic Blend!!! Now that was a surprise! That's pretty good quality oil. I don't think my Dodge/Chrysler dealer uses anything but Delo 400, or Shell Rotella. It really stinks for the first couple hundred miles after my Dodge Dealer oil changes.

    I asked about what brand oil filter they use, and the service counter person said, Fleet Guard for all diesel P.U. oil changes!

    What do you folks think? Isn't that pretty reasonable?
    Has anyone had an oil change at Camping World with their diesel TV/P.U..?

    $44.99 is a heck of a price for an oil change. Only bugaboo, is that you can't just drop in for an oil change. You do have to make an appointment, as they're pretty busy working on all kinds of RV's etc. Right now the San Martin Store is booked about 1 1/2 weeks in advance for oil changes.
     
  2. RJF's Red Cummins

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    Back when I ran conventional oil I could change mine for about $25.

    Now it costs me about $70 with Amsoil synthetic and a nanofiber Donaldson filter. The difference is I would have to change my oil three times if I still ran conventional vs. synthetic, so it averages about $23 or so per 8K.

    Bottom line, it's cheaper to change your own oil. Getting everything put back correctly is so critical, one of their people screws up and doesn't get the filter on tight, the plug in tight, and you loose a motor 10 miles down the road.

    Back in highschool we had a shop car with a blown engine. A saturn, the motor was blown because someone left the filter loose at a "quick lube" type place.
     
  3. BurnedBronco

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    change my own every 3k in all my trucks.
    letting oil go to 10k is nuts.
     
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    Changing oil in a diesel engine in this type of application at 3K is nuts, or at least a waste of money. It's not a 5.3 small block chevy with a 5 quart capacity. It's a Cummins or PSD or Dmax that hold three gallons, and has a filter twice the size. it doesn't need to be changed at 3K unless you are using the junkiest low grade oil that can be bought and never get the engine hardly warmed up.
     
  5. BurnedBronco

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    bull****, on a powerstroke it matters
    i use rottelat T and thats all it has ever had.
    truck does NOT get any short trips all long trips at high RPM. turck does sit some, but nothing excessive.
    at 4k you can hear the truck run different at idle, and you can monitor IC and IPR percentage and it will tell you it is starting to airate some.
     
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    I equally call bull. In that type of condition you should be able to go 7-9K on Rotella. My grandfather has a '95 like yours, changes the oil every 20K, uses some Texeco brand conventional oil, and has 320+K on the motor with no signs of significant wear.

    There is no possible way you would need to change oil at 3K on a nearly 12quart capacity pan, especially in those types of driving conditions.

    Have your oil analyized, you'll see what I mean.
     
  7. BurnedBronco

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    you take the pictures for yourself then.
    95k 7.3L idi wit hoil changed every 3k. hell, right on the front cover it says in harsh conditions change every 2,500
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    180k idi with oil changed who knows when
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    which engine do you think has less wear on it?
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    I get your point, but you have no info on the dirtier engine.

    Bottom line is oil doesn't need to be changed in that short of intervals with these engines to get a full service life.

    Sure, the engine stays spotless since the oil barelly even breaks in at 3K, but by that method, why stop there? Change it every time you get back from town, then it will stay really spotless.:stir:

    Oil changes are not cheap. Add up what it costs to change oil every 3K vs. 6K after say 300K. I guarantee that the engine will last nearly as long, if not as long with 6K intervals. Punch some numbers. At a $35 oil doing it yourself ($60 done at a quick lube) it costs $3500 to change oil every 3K and $1750 at 6K on a motor that goes 300K.

    I've done experiments over and over with OTR trucks, guys that preach that you can't dare go over 10K on an oil change.... I've ran motors like that with religious changes and other motors that see 15-17K intervals. nearly no mileage difference, both ways result in 1,000,000+ miles.
     
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    Do they charge fo additional quarts?Most places do then you find out otherwise also with the turbo on a diesel or any engine go full synthetic not a blend especially if it has ball bearings.I run Valvoline synthetic for 5k recominded 3k for what it costs it should be longer intervals and still looking good at 5K and I'm going to give the Amsoil a go and see how I like it myself.Oil is like a full tank of gas some times it goes longer with the right driver and under the right conditions BMW has a 15K recomindation from the factory and now GM is going to 7.5K with Toyota,Ford,VW running 5K Toyota and Ford useing a synthetic blend and VW using a synthetic
    As far as the Castrol I would stay away it breaks down to quickly along with Quaker State,Penzoil,Valvoline(conventional)Halvoline,Kendal the crap from the 7-11 and a ton of other no name brands running the Rottela 5K would be alright but I woundt go farther than that and honestly wont run it myself.
     
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    Nope. Was told that they go up to 24 quarts of oil at the $44.95 price, and that includes oil disposal fees, and a Fleet Guard filter too!

    Oil is Castrol Syn-Blend too!
     
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    BurnedBronco,
    Been using the
    AMSOIL Series 3000 Synthetic 5w30 Heavy Duty Diesel Oil in my 6.0L Power Stroke since the first oil change and I'm using 7,500 mile oil change intervals. 57k on the engine and still getting 17.5 mpg city.
     
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    Actually in the early 90s synthetic was around as was the blends or thats what my company is saying who gets there info from the manufactures even Chevy and Ford used em.Now as far the the turbo goes you want something that will lube better and displace heat and not brake down as quickly the engines of today should easily last 300k to 500k with the proper maintenace and oil,diesle or gas.
     
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    Amsoil has been around since 1972. First Synthetic approved for automotive use.

    BTW - I run over 600 hp, looking to go over 750hp and right now I change am going to change ou the Amsoil at around 7500 miles. When we break 750, I'm going to start a little experiment . . . . . . :popcorn:

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    tell us more :D
     
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    I work at a Ford dealer. I have a lot access to information on this topic. Changing your oil every 5-7k is sufficent. You can change it every 3k but its overkill. Before I bought my Escort I was driving my rig every day. I changed my oil monthly. Most months I would pit 6-7k on it. I use Motorcraft 15w40 oil and a FL-1995 filter every time. I have never had a oil related problem.
     

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