We are planning to pull a 15000 lbs load will a gooseneck tandem. the pull vehicle is a 2004.5 extended cab 4x4 2500HD with a duramax / allison. As i understand the GCWR is 22000lbs, GVRW is 9200 lbs. I believe the truck weighs Between 6500 and 7500 lbs. we dont have specs on the trailer yet but we are planning that it will be rated close to carry the load and are figuring the trailer will weigh about 4000 lbs or less. The calculations for total GCWR will be around 25000 to 26000 lbs. we will be installing a trailer break controller also. I do Have a CDL A. as the numbers show, i will be overloaded. what are your thoughts on this haul. the haul will be from maryland to northern new york.
The trailer you are talking about is a dual tandem, not just a tandem I hope. If it is a tandem and has a 14k GVW you will be overloading the tires and this is very bad. If you say this trailer weighs about 4k it is a 14k GVW. You must take the weight of the trailer minus the 20% of tongue weight that it probably has and that will give you what the trailer is designed to haul. Which is about 12,800# loaded correctly. However this will be overloading your truck. If your truck ways 7k add 2800# of tongue weight = 9800#. About 600# over your GVWR. This will not overload your tires on the truck, because they can handle 6874# combined (same tires found on the 3500 SRW with a 9900GVWR). Sorry to make it complicated but you will be about 3000# overweight. This is not the safest thing to do and I wouldn't recommend it.But if you must I would make sure there are no weigh stations or avoid the highway altogether. Keep your speeds down as the drivetrain will handle the load with no issues at all however the brakes will be overworked if you have to stop quickly. Again I wouldn't recommend this, you could kill yourself or someone else if a tire blows and you lose control. But I think a lot of people have pulled overweight loads at one time in their life, key word is be careful.
There you have it. I have pulled more weight than that and I can tell you it is NOT safe! Like was said stopping is the issue. Be carefull.
If your trailer is rated for the load, and you can keep the tongue weight somewhat reasonable, I wouldn't worry about it- assuming you have the trailer brakes working properly. Yes, you'll be overweight, yes, you'll be illegal, but I know of lots of people who pull heavier than that with 1-tons regularly. If you get in an accident, you're going to be screwed though.
what he said. i would stay at the posted trailer speed limit or no faster than 65mph. i pull over weight EVERY time i pulled my trailer and NEVER had any problems. your Ali acts a bit like my Jake. you need to make sure that if your tires get to hot to touch then you slow down 5mph. then check them again in about 25 miles just to make sure. my CGW was anywhere from 24000 to 27000 BUT i was running 265-70-19.5's. they can handle it a lot more. go slow, and all witll be fine. increase following distance and watch the yellow caution signs and follow them for speed recomendations as the trailer will try to push you around a bit if you dont slow donw.
anyone else that has input , please reply asap. if we consider this, i want as much professional input as possible from those that have actual expierience with this type of haul. are there any of you that have hauled much more than this? the hot tire issue, is that caused by the weight of the load via downward force on the truck or wieght of the pull on the truck. the trailer to my knowlegde will be a tandem axle , NOT equipped with duals. I still do not have the specs on the trailer as it is a friend of a friends--trailer. If and when we get really serious, I will get that info before we decide whether or not I will approve this pull.
I pull over weight all the time. I stay off the hwy everytime. I keep my speed under 50 at all times and tend to take a few red lights so I don't have to slam on the brakes. They do get overworked as my stock brakes pads only lasted 25k miles.
Thank you for all your help. Our haul was going to be a mid sized excavator. We have found an excavator for sale of comparable size and price local. I was about to call off the run that i was going to do anyhow as my calculations were close to 27000 lbs. when we found the local one for sale. the distance weighted with the risk and reason were just too much. I would have try'd that haul a short distance local.
If your tires are in good shape and properly inflated, I wouldn't worry about it too much. I have a former boss, who's judgement I trust (many, many years of heavy industry, driving, and equipment operation under his belt), who tows a D5 on a tandem dual trailer behind his F350 SRW on occasion, and a somewhat lighter backhoe just as often. I asked him how it did and he said it wasn't an issue. IDK, I understand what weight ratings are for, but lets be honest here, they are conservative most of the time. As a Class "A" driver, I'm sure you know how to drive and keep an eye out for trouble. Running overloaded is part of driving, regardless if we're talking a 1/2 ton gasser or dodging scales in a big rig. Sure, in a perfect world nobody would ever run heavy, but in real life, sometimes you have to get the job done. Just be extra careful during your inspection, stop frequently, and pay attention to what you're doing. :stir:
Thank You bowtie! I enjoy honest and realistic personalities such as yours. A truthful point-of-view is always well appreciated by me.
first off...you need a trailer that can hold the weight you want to carry, and problem solved, that easy do it right first time... second....a 1 ton truck drw diesel preferred or srw.and if you commercial register to 36000 total....my trailers max load capacity is 16000 lbs trailer weighs 9800 (plenty) and it pulls fine and legal....you need the right equipment to do things, if dont have dont do it, could cost you a hard time of problems.....the right equipment should have the right tires as well...and if you dont think you can do it hire someone that can.....
