Am I crazy for wanting an older truck as a tow rig?

Discussion in 'General Tow Rig Discussion' started by Divorced, Feb 6, 2006.

  1. Divorced

    Divorced Well-Known Member

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    First off, if anyone has any pics of older rigs they use for towing, please post some pics for inspirational purposes.

    I don't tow often enough to justify a new truck for a tow rig, nor do I want a truck payment, so I was thinking about this truck for a tow rig. I don't ever haul over 5,000 pounds on my trailer. Besides, I think vintage trucks rock!

    I bought this jewel for $200 and drove it 90 miles home. It has a 390, 4 speed, and a 4.10 geared Dana 70. The clutch slips a little and may need replaced, and the engine needs some new gaskets because of oil leaks. The current bed is trash and would be replaced by a home-built bed that is only as long as the frame (no overhang past the frame), possibly with a swing around boom to pick stuff up off the ground and load onto the bed... then unload at my destination. Replace the bias ply tires with some radials. And then do some body work and paint to make it look good.

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    Not at all ! With all of the technology in todays trucks , nothing is wrong with an older truck that can be "understood" ...
     
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    powerstrokin

    Aint nothing wrong with a older tow rig i dont want a new truck payment either so i see where you are coming from
     
  4. powerstrokin

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    1 ton hauler

    i haul with a 96 and it is paid for so you have to do with what you got
     
  5. Brisk

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    No Way!! Vintage tow-rigs are way cooler than newer ones. If I didnt need a truck for work I would want a Decked out 70s Chevy CC Dually with a built 454 and NV4500:cool:
     
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    I'll throw in an opinion from the other end...

    I am not much of a fan of older trucks that will be towing all the time. But, it depends on what a person wants from a vehicle.

    For one you can't get a factory diesel in an older truck, I for one couldn't afford to drive a gas rig with today's petroleum prices. Not only that but power and transmissions are worth mentioning. It's pretty nice pulling hills at nearly full speed along with having an overdrive trans for fuel mileage and to keep the engine noise down.

    The next thing for me is comfort. Old trucks are loose, noisy, and generally don't handle as well as a newer truck. This is something that really starts to get on my nerves after driving a ways. When I am towing a trailer, there is a good chance I am headed down the road for a while. All the rattles, primitive insulation for noise and motor heat, and squeeks get irritating quick.

    Another thing is A/C, I will NOT drive a vehicle for an extended period of time, especially on a noisy highway, without A/C so I can have the windows up. My brain starts to ache after listening to all the road noise for a while at 65mph. Most early 70's trucks aren't A/C equipped.

    I use my towrig as a dialy driver, and compare the double duty service to any truck question like this because thats what the truck would have to do if I owned it. Having a newer truck is really nice when you use it every day.

    Reliability is my last comment. Although much older trucks (like mid 70's or earlier) are very simple, but they still have a hard time being as reliable as a new truck on their best day.

    Here is our 1976 C30, it's been a good truck over the years and serves as a fuel wagon around the ranch.

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    I'm glad you posted that up... I hate fords, but I found one almost exactly like that with the exception of a nice built bed and was considering hitting the owner up about selling it to me. $200 is a good price I could handle paying for the truck. (the real prize I want is mounted to it's bed in the form of a huge miller welder/engine). I know I'm not gonna get off with mine that cheap because of the welder but I would then be stuck with another truck I don't necessarily need. Think I'm gonna make an offer and just use the truck locally for hauling (where I do most of my towing anyway) and as a "work only" truck.
     
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    Thanks everyone for the opinions, and thanks Bobby for the good looking pic. waytogo
     
  9. Mud23609

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    Not nearly as old as the first truck but it gets the job done and I only have $4,000 invested. If the old 7.3 under the hood cant safley pull it then I guess that I will have call in a big rig.
     

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    I wish I could find some digital pictures or it (may have to scan some) but I once had a 68 GMC 1 ton (11k GVW!) dual wheel (not dually) that I really liked. 292 I6 backed by a 465 into an Eaton screw (4.56 IIRC?). That thing would tote a house and then some without flinching. Problem was, it had 4 wheel drums, no brake booster, and a single piston master. To say it didn't like to stop was an understatement! :eek: Then I upgraded with a (IIRC?) 78 Chevy 3/4 ton front cradle (same as 1 ton) to get disk brakes, a vacume booster and dual master from the same truck, and added some electrical upgrades for good measure. So siimple and would always get-er-done, but don't get in any hurry. I sorta miss that truck, but my DMax is SO MUCH NICER in so many ways...
     
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    We've got one, except ours is a '69. Eaton rear end with 10 lug hubs. My dad built a flatbed for it with a pipe rack. 350 SBC with a 4spd. It would pull like crazy in granny with the low Eaton ring&pinion, even with 19.5" rims and tires. The 4 wheel drums suck!

    Ours is rotting away in the yard, I'm going to pull the engine and trans out along with the flatbed and send the truck to the grave yard.
     
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    Yeah, mine wound up stretched with a 20' flat (IIRC?) + 6' dove tail as a "car hauler". Had big external (not in the cab) tanks from a MD and 2 big under bed tool cabinets. PTO winch AND 8274 plus a pogo and sling. Biggest load I ever hauled (after the upgrades! :eek: ) was a 3/4 Suburban with a Caddy 500 and the back packed full of iron (I don't recall what all, engine blocks, axles, that type of thing) AND a 74(ish) big LTD in tow hanging from the pogo with the front end mangled and a 460 plus junk piled inside. I hauled that through the back roads of S Tenn down into N AL (curves and hills and curves starting up the hills all over the place). I have no idea what it weighed, but that's the only time that truck ever really felt like it was working, but it really had no trouble even when rounding sharp curves before starting up 8%+ hills. Just let 'er lug (292 LOVES low rpm lug) and don't rush, you'll get there eventually... :D

    Hmm, almost forgot. Actually, I hauled a rather huge load of "green" pine boards from a back woods saw mill one time. Enough to frame out a 64' x 32' "equipment shed" (3 sides and a lean-to roof) all on one load. I think that was probably worse than the 2 shot above. That was one working SoB for sure, never complained and worked great after the brake upgrades...
     
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    Russ- find them pics!!!:popcorn:
     
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    I'll chime in too. I was thinking 50's when you say 'older'. On that note, if you like a certain body style truck(example: most people like 48-early55 Chevy trucks), then swap the body out with a newer truck that's been rolled over. Then you have a good body that you like with an up to date drive train(engine, better brakes, bigger axles, etc.).
     
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    I saw this thread and thought I'd toss one in. My dad bought my '86 K20 new and it served us well since then. The best thing about older rigs is they came from the factory loaded with some of the toughest parts available. I will always be a GM fan, but in the HD line I wish they'd go back to solid front axles. Honestly, back then you bought a 3/4 or 1 ton to haul stuff. Newer pickups kinda lost that now. I will say when I took over the keys, I had to take the steel wheels off and the 8 ply tires because I no longer needed the diesel fuel tank in the box. Without that having at least half a load of fuel, it rode terrible. Now if only I could swap a Cummins or a Dmax in it, along with a stout tranny...I'd be happy waytogo
     
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    They do have things going for them. Simple, rugged, and functional. But they give up a lot too. They generally can’t keep up in power (while remaining reliable), fuel mileage (generally sacrificed for power), ride and handling, modern amenities, and often pretty much worn out and takes a lot of building, rebuilding and PM to be dependable. I sometimes get nostalgic for one of my old trucks, and there were some I liked a great deal, but I wouldn’t trade my HD for any of them, and the only think it looses in a match up with “old iron” is simplicity…

    And you say “back when they were built to haul stuff, have you looked at the payloads modern LD trucks are capable of? Regardless of the fru-fru image many associate with modern trucks because they ride better and are quieter, the modern HD line will actually out haul and generally out last (miles wise, not sure how the electronics are going to fair over 20+ years) the older comparable trucks quite easily.
     
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    I tow with an 88 Chevy C3500 454/TH400. It is really all I can afford, but it git's r done.
     
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    I want your 76 C30!!! I love the older standard cab duallys!waytogo
     
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    Bring some cash and the title is yours!:D All we use it for is a fuel wagon. That tank that is on that trailer is now in the back of the pickup and it just drives from it's parking spot, to the refueling main tank, and to a tractor, and back to it's spot. Kind of sad really...
     
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    Sent you a pm, can hope!
     

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