Are You Stacking Chips/Tuners

I am looking for feedback on what combinations of chips and tuners you guys/girls are stacking to build the big power. Also what issue you have had, if any when stacking. Basically what is working and what is not.

 

Power puck And Preatior. works great

 

Smarty now, maybe add TST in the future, but need other stuff first, hell, I need tires next.

 

i have a bully dog power pup. probly end up stacking something but not real sure what yet. but ill be needing a clutch before i do that

 

my ? is when you stack can you stack 2 programmers liek my power pup and say the diablosport or ppe. or do you do it with power pup/ts8 or edge ez. or can you do it either way. and also from what ive gatherd so far the programmers increase timeing and the boxes that go under the hood do the fuel increase. so cant an engines timing be increased only so much? like stacking 2 programmers would you actualy gain say 400hp (2 200 hp programmers) or would it top out at max timing at say 300 hp. i dont really understand this all that much so thanks in advance

 

Timing Info, two chips stacked together will not give you the combined amount of both products. There so many products that achieve the power in different ways, then stacking them multiplies these variable to a point when it is almost impossible to get the right combination. Read a little bit about the X-Power Plus timing vs the X Power no timing that I have listed below.

The BD X-Power Plus will boost horsepower and torque by controlling injection duration and timing. The X-Power Plus is great for those who want all the power with out the guess work involved in stacking a tuner with a performance chip. The X-Power Plus is great to stack with a fuel pressure box but should not be stacked with most tuners using timing advancing. This is not recommended because it may cause issues associated with too much timing which a lot of guys tend to over look when shopping for a stacking combination.

***To much timing can cause a timing rattle that is common when stacking tuners with a performance chip that already has high levels of advanced timing***

In this case the regular X-Power (non timing) version is ideal for stacking with a tuner that already advances timing.

The BD X-Power will boost horsepower and torque by controlling Injection Duration only. This works great for those of you who are already using a tuner with high levels of advanced timing and are looking for more power through stacking. This will eliminate the issues associated with running to much timing.

The X-Power and X-Power Plus use a fully adjustable dial to fine tune HP anywhere from 0-180 RWHP for optimal power and controlled EGT’s

 

cool thanks for the answer i figure you could only advance the timing so much. so is the x-power compatible with the power pup.

 

No worries, anytime!

Yes it stacks very nice with that Bully Dog, if you check out my signature you will see i stack mine with and BD X-Tuner that is very similar to the Bully Dog Tuner, it works great... smooth HP!

 

what I did was look for a product that made a stacking combo kit Like the Preatior and Power Puck. plus thats the programer the project X TRUCK IS USING - the Puck .I kinda like keeping it all the same know what i mean. Sony TV and sony DVD, Vcr, and Stero and speakers and Woofer . I dont like to mix match keep it all the same but iam weard like that.

 

I agree about keeping it all the same, easier trouble shooting... look at my signature, its all X-products

 

Diablo stacked with Attitude here on 06 Ram.
Works great.

 

i wil be stacking the Van Aaken C3.2 i have with a C3.1 after i get a new turbo. thats not the question i have though as thats two chips. but i will also be needing a new clutch at the same time... thats $3k i dont have.
Grant

 

I stacked the Superchips Flashpack with the Predator stage 3 module and completely obliterated my fuel system. It didn't cost me anything but the final ticket at the dealership was almost 6 grand to get my truck running again. Currently I am just running the Superchips module because I am a little scared to stack right now, plus my clutch is hating me right now.

 

I have the Edge Hot juice+A2 stacked with the Edge EZ, and love it.

 

I am stacking the Smarty 4.4 with the MP8.

My truck runs smooth with almost zero rattle.

It gets a bit smokey if I'm hasty with the go pedal.
Monster power though!

Too much timing will break things...even at lower power levels.

 

I'm looking at stacking my Edge "Hot" Juice /Attitude (+150rwhp / 400 lb-ft) with probably the Diablo Predator downloader. According to Edge, unlike the 2004.5 to 2007 5.9L Cummins Juice modules that only control timing/duration, the 2003-2004 Juice start off with pressure at the low-end and gradually transition to timing/duration as you go up through the rpm band.

From what I understand, the Diablo Predator controls mostly pressure. The trick is to go into the Juice/Attitude menu and adjust the "low boost fueling" to the lowest settings. That way the Edge's contribution to power (pressure) is minimal at the lower rpm's and the Predator is making the power. At the bigger end, the Juice kicks in and along with the Predator I would now have all the bases covered...Pressure, Timing and Duration. To be safe, I think I'd just stick with the Predators lowest setting (tow = 60rwhp / 120 lb-ft) and then control total output with the Juice/Attitude. I have talked to several guys running this stack and they all say it's about the best thing going for the 2003-2004 Dodges that already have an Edge Juice/Attitude.

 

I totally agree... fuel pressure, injection timing and injection duration will build the power but am leery with doing fuel pressure on the common rails. All the injector failures I see usually have some type of fuel pressure box on them.

it does not sound like you are running a lot of pressure but I assume you have had no injector issues?

 

Nope. :doahknock on wood). I'm not wanting a lot of rail pressure myself. That is why I would turn the "low boost fueling" (how fast the pressure ramps up at low RPM's) on the Edge Juice/Attitude all the way down and let the downloader, set at the "tow" setting, take care of the pressure. I don't believe I'll have too much trouble that way as there won't be 2 power adders trying to add pressure at the same time.

 

No issues here either, but I leave the MP8 on a reasonably low setting and crank it when I need it.

My injector guy claims I can hit his injectors pretty hard (we shall see), but like Dave said I would go easy on stock injectors.

 

I'm running an edge comp (un-tapped) and thinking about stacking it with a smarty.