I should go in to a little more detail about my truck.It is a 2004.5 600 Dodge Ram SLT Quad Cab Long bed DWR 4x4.I have done a few things to it.The hot edge with attitude, 4 inch exhaust, super b turbo, itercooler, injectors, rapid air intake, torque converter, valve body, propane injection,two peace header.I have not put it on a dyno yet but i am guessing around 600 hp & 1000 tq. my question is the factory ecm de fuels when it séances slippages it is like a torque management system how do bypass this it is holding the truck back.It will not even let me smoke the tires.I have run the truck at the track and only made a 13.8 pass. can any one help.
hmm, i didnt think dodge had a torque management like that... i have a 6 shooter in my 04.5... so i dont know Grant
Yeah i thought it was just chevy that did the whole 'torque management' thing... I have no idea how to fix your problem but that sounds like a mean truck you got goin there waytogo
Are you saying that the truck is backing out the power to let up on the drivetrain and you want to bypass this? I was not aware that the stock ECM was capable of this, but I am aware that the box that you have equipped with the Attitude monitor contains this as a safety feature and defuels the motor if it detects transmission slippage. You are making a ton of power and you mentioned no internal modifications in the trans. Just a converter and valve body upgrade. If you are making 600HP then you are probably more like making the strong side of 1,100ft lbs. I would think it's your clutches and bands that can't handle a torque load that big. Even with a valve body upgrade that puts more PSI on the clutches, 600HP is still a lot for stock internals. I say it's the Attitude backing out because of clutch slippage. But.... I'm more of a 2nd gen guy, I could be completely wrong. With that aside, if the truck is "managing" power output due to trans slippage then why would you want to bypass this safety feature? It's trying to save your trans. If that is what it is and you were able to bypass the safety feature you'd more than likely shred the trans internals and ruin the new converter and VB.
Thanks for the feed back. Merry Christmas all.About the edge I have turned all the alerts and defueling safety up to bypass those.I have talked to a some at B.D. and they make something for the none 600 series cummins to bypass this.But on the 600 series the system is not stand alone its part of the ECM.To me it is not a safety feature it a hindrance.I paid for the power I should be able to use it like I want not how the factory thinks I should.I don't mind breaking parts It lets me know were the weak points are.So if I dump A trans ill just make stronger.We have the technology! Thanks again for the input.:stir:
Well thats the second route. I was going to say, either accept the safety feature and appreciate it because it's keeping the trans alive, or bypass it, shred it, and rebuild it even better. BUT.... If the system is kicking in, that would mean that it is sencing slippage. Otherwise it would not back the power out right? It's either slipping causing it to override or it's not slipping. Thats how that system works right? With that, I would just go and have the tranny torn down and rebuilt if that was your plan anyway, that way you could save the TC and VB and only have to rebuild the internals up. If you shred it the particles will likely destroy your TC and VB. After an internal upgrade wouldn't that basically "get around" the system by increasing it's power handling... meaning no slippage anymore at a designated power level, which means no safety feature kicking in.?.
The only thing that comes to mind that bd builds is a racew anti defueling modual that gives you full fueling to 3500 rpms, but no other sort of stuff. I think you have a wierd truck. Maybe you are loseing fuel, like a bad lift pump or you are draining the rail by injecting more than you can supply. My 06 Auto has no such problems.