Lift pump finally died.....

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  1. barbastard

    barbastard Well-Known Member

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    Lost my lift pump on my 2004 QC/LB/4x4 pulling into Hollister Hills OHV while towing my K5 rockcrawler. Truck started bucking like it was out of fuel and then just died. I had to try and stop the entire +/-16k-17k lb load with no power brakes and no steering…I damn near ran off the road. After I changed my underwear I eventually got it started up and mustered up enough power to get me into camp about 1.5 miles down the road. A lift pump pressure test Sunday morning confirmed that I in fact had 0psi. Rather than try driving it home and risk damaging the injection pump or even worse an accident I had it towed 95 miles home. I knew my lift pump was going out as a while ago it was only putting out about 6psi at idle and barely 4.5 at WOT. So…it failing on me is somewhat my own fault.

    I called the dealer this morning and did find out that it is covered under warranty but I’d have to pay a $100 deductible and still get it to the dealer somehow. Chrysler road side assistance MAY tow me for free but if not I’m stuck with the bill. To top it off I did some research and I found out that the dealer replacement pump, which would now be mounted in the fuel tank and not on the fuel filter canister, isn’t much better than the one that failed on me. Apparently the in tank pump can be drained down to 0psi at only about 16lbs of boost….I’m already running around 30-35 at WOT. So, it was clear to me that going the cheaper easier route would, in the long run…most likely lead to another failure and that wouldn’t be bueno.

    SO….decided to go with this pump:

    http://www.glacierdieselpower.com/product.aspx?pf_id=RP-100-D24-34

    Install is easy, pump has a lifetime warranty and it’s output pressure is adjustable and will support up to about 550-650 hp….I don’t think I’ll be going past that anytime soon. The additional money that this will cost me over the dealer pump will pay for piece of mind and knowing that it’s done right the first time. So, now I won’t have to worry about the lift pump failing on us while towing the K5 to Moab in September….I can now worry about u-joints, tires, injection pumps, injectors, transmission, etc. etc.

    I should have the parts by Wednesday or Thursday with install commencing immediately as until then I don’t have a vehicle and will be borrowing one from work.

    I’ll post up with details on the install and driving impressions once it’s in and running.

    Any of you guys out there running stock lift pumps in 2003 to 2004.5 trucks I’d recommend either installing an aftermarket one NOW before it fails on you or at the very least carrying a spare one to swap out on the side of the road. Spare pumps can be had here:

    http://www.genosgarage.com/prodinfo.asp?number=PUMP_FPD4089602
     
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    Nitelord Well-Known Member

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    The Raptors a nice pump. Just curious... Had you considered the full Airdog system?

    Enjoy the new pump. waytogo
     
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    barbastard Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, I had considered the full air dog system (FP 100 I think it was) but the research I had done led me to believe that the HPCR engines don’t gain as much from the air being removed from the fuel as the older 24V and12V engines with the VP44. Plus, I already have the GDP Mk2 filtration kit on my truck so getting it again with the air dog would be a waste and I would actually have to remove the MK2 essentially wasting the money I spent on it. That being said…had I not had the MK2 on my truck I probably would’ve gone with the airdog.
     
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    That's cool. I've heard a lot of good feedback on the Raptors. Enjoy...
     
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    For most guys, the Raptor setup is most appealing. But the price of the full AirDog system sure promotes sales. I sure don't like to see them still using that blue air line for fuel, but that's just me. :D

    The factory fuel filter is decent and 3 micron filters are out there. So, it's all personal choice. But that lifetime warranty is sure nice!!


    Dave
     
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    I went with exactly the same set up from Glacier that you chose. Exept I have the Caterpillar 2micron filter after the factory filter. I have over 60,000miles since going to the Glacier pump and I also have a light on the dash to warn me when the fuel pressure is below 5 psi and exept for the initial start I have never seen the light on. Richard sells good stuff.
    Jim O
     
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    i had the same problem the other day pump went out and started bucking, i bought the truck it already had a fass pump on it called fass they said it had a lifetime warranty on it but since i wasn t the one who bought i was pretty much screwed and they wouldn t cover i told them thats fine i wouldn t be putting a fass back on it that their company was a joke if the pump has a lifetime warranty then it shouldn t matter who ownes the truck its the part not the owner
     

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