Looks like my 47RE bit the dust....

Well, my 47RE is acting up badly and I'm going to take it to the local shop today. I pulled the sled trailer (about 7K) up into the mountains on Saturday and worked it really hard through the winding hills. It had given me a few problems before Saturday by taking off in 2nd gear but only when it was cold. After the trip it is taking off in 2nd anf shifting strait into 3rd. Sometimes it will take off in 1st but go directly into 3rd, lots of goofy stuff. I would imagine it's basically done.

I'll find out later, hopefully my service contract will put a rebuild in it for me.

 

Sounds like it's upgrade time. waytogo

 

x2. No sense going with the stock junk. Especially if you plan on increasing power at all, which I think you have mentioned in other posts. How many miles did you get out of this unit?

 

The transmission shop is going to tear into it Monday morning. They couldn't find any electrical problems on the scanner while driving the truck so they think it's internal. They will tear it down and figure out whats wrong with it, then they will contact my service contract to have an adjuster come out to look at the transmission and tell us if and what they will cover under warranty. I really don't like service contracts and won't be buying another one.....

The owner of the shop that I know personally said he can get different upgraded converters that are basically copy cats of BD stuff and what not, he didn't give me many details today.

I plan on upgrading what I can, it all depends on how much my contract will pay up. If they go ahead and pay for a rebuild than it will give me some room to get a better converter, valve body, pan, and hopefully even some internal mods but we will see.

This was kind of a bad time for this to happen to me, I don't have a lot of money to mess around with right now. It might have to go back stock, but hopefully not. I do know that I won't be ordering any fancy $5K tranny right now. I talked to DTT but they basically don't want my business or the shop's that my truck is going to because they say they have had bad luck with California shops. They basically want to sell me a complete transmission or nothing at all. My service contract isn't going to buy anything from DTT and they won't just give me a check for what they would pay, it has to go to the shop for their work. Kind of a pickle? Basically. ATS is way overpriced and with their triplock converter I'd have to spend another $500 on a billet flexplate, too much money right now. Right now I am basically relying on what my friend can get through his trans shop.

Everything basically depends on what they find wrong with it and when they do how severe it is and how much my contract will pay. That will happen Monday and then I will know what I can and can't do.


It made it 119K, not at all impressive but better than some I guess.

 

119K isnt just better than some, its better than most.

 

May wanna try to even put in a 48 at the very least. Good luck.

 

Bobby, You could make friends with the tranny guy and then when the S/C gives him the money for a rebuild you could just pay the difference for upgrades. I made this deal with a body shop guy to put on an upgraded front bumper on my Jeep...but the stupid insurance company totaled it Good luck!! Ive got almost 123k on my 4L80E so Im crossing my fingers...So far it is performing great!!

 

What is a "48?"

Nah, I disagree. Seems most people get 100-150K out of them without much fuss.

Thats the idea. But it all depends on how much my contract will pay, if they pay for a free rebuild than yeah, I will have some room to spend some money, infact I found that ATS actually has a fairly good deal for all of their stuff in a kit instead of a complete tranny.

But, knowing my service contract, they will do everything they possibly can to avoid paying anything. Thats what they do, take your money and spend the next two years trying to dodge you.

I will see how much they will pay after chewing butt on the phone for two days like the last time they had to pay for something big.

 

48RE, its the auto tranny that they put in the new dodges. They put them in the High Outputs. Its alot better and stronger tranny than the 47.

 

Thats what I figured you meant, a 48RE. Far as I know a 48RE will not work, it carries an NP273 behind it where the 47RE uses both an standard and HD version NP241.

Regardless, the 48RE isn't much better anyway, it can handle more power than the 47RE but it's still just as inneficient as the earlier model. I'd rather just go with a good converter and valve body with a stock rebuild than a 48RE. The secret to having a good diesel auto is the converter and oil pressure. All of the big names say their converters improve acceleration and fuel mileage due to better fins, viscous clutches, and different percentage stators. Not to mention their resistance to ballooning and shearing flexplate bolts.

I'm looking to gain strength through better efficiency. With better efficiency higher power handling will come hand in hand.waytogo

 

Well good luck, I hope you get what you need to put more power outta that beast!

 

A 47RE with an aftermarket converter, valve body, and just a couple of extra stuff in the case far exceeds what a stock Allison can handle. A "level 1" 47RE like described is supposed to be good for 450-500HP and 4 digits of torque. After that is when the billet shafts are needed.

Parts are a little more than that, ATS is the only company that is willing (actually didn't check Suncoast) to sell the my local trans shop parts. Everyone else just wants to sell me a complete transmission.

ATS 5 star converter, $1388
Valve body upgrade kit $288
Front pump, modified $495 + core
rebuild kit $439
2nd gear band and strut doobober $65
deep pan $265

$2940 and another $1000 for the shop to do the build and R&R. It will be over $4k, if my SC pays $2K than thats not bad at all, a built tranny for about 2K out of my pocket. Thats best case scenerio and the SC will definantly not be ringing the shop's phone off the hook to rebuild them. I maybe have $2K to spend myself, everybit the SC gets down from "their" $2K will be taking away the mod parts fund, if that all makes sence.

 

Got any links if you remember what you were looking at?

I got a buddy that I talked to today that is an ATS dealer and might be able to help me out just a little.

It all depends on what happens Monday, heck, they might find that the governor solenoid is just acting up and wasn't showing on the scanner, on my way I go.....

 

Sorry to hear about the problems.

That 'starting in second thing' is a solenoid in the tranny - easy fix. Seriously.

 

That price sounds HIGH. Way high. I've got "only" $2750 into mine (no billet) from a local guy. Anyway, check the solenoid first, they don't always show on the scanner.............

 

What brand parts did you use? ATS is fairly high.

 

I dropped my truck off at the tranny shop this morning. My tranny is probably scattered across a table right now waiting for the insurance adjuster tommorrow.