Fate of the Cummins?

Discussion in 'Dodge 3rd Gen Cummins 5.9 (24v)' started by liv24wheel, Jun 3, 2005.

  1. BadDog

    BadDog TRC Staff Staff Member

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    Damn, I missed that option on mine. Is it available as an after market upgrade? :D

    And as for the nice new trucks, you couldn't beat me into going back to my old 69 GMC 11k dually or any of the other "old school" work trucks I've owned. My current truck is more comfortable than most any car I've ever driven AND it will STILL out work all the old "1 ton" work trucks while still handling rough roads about as well or better than most of my old muscle cars. It's simply better across the board and I don't know why anyone would want to go back to the way things were, except that they were a lot cheaper then.

    If you want things more like they used to be, buy a contractor grade, stripped down, fleet truck. If you want a rough ride, throw on a set of 8 or 10 ply bias tires aired to full pressure and put on some super stiff shocks, that ought to get you back where you want to be. I'll never understand people who "worse is better", but there sure are a lot of them on truck forums…
     
  2. liv24wheel

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    My statement about the backseat opinion I have towards interior luxury was made only as a hope that manufacturers dont overlook the WORK aspect of a work truck. I agree it is nice to have a sick ass interior, gets you way more second dates. However I just hope that manufacturers dont start focusing specifically on the interior and creature comforts just to make more sales to crossover Buick drivers, and overlook drivetrain components in the process. Also I completly disagree with the "worse is better" statment made previously, everyone has their own opinions and to them it is not worse, it is how that person invisions a "truck". I have talked to several guys who have bought Fords and Dodges because the GM's "ride like cars" and that is not how a "truck" is invisioned. Last time I checked towing capacity was related to spring rate, which is directly related to ride quality. The higher the spring rate, the stiffer the spring, the heavier the load you can haul. Isnt that what we bought our trucks for?
     
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    Ok Isee your point a little better now. All you had to do was mention the naked breasts. :D
     
  4. shotdir

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    OK, someone's been watching waaaaaaayyyyyy too many truck washing videos.....

    I got out of a 5.3 Z71 because at 80,000 miles it was getting tired from towing my toyhauler.

    I looked at:
    The Ford - had the biggest interior, nice gauges, and the tow boss.
    The Chevy - had nicest (plushest) interior, The Allison tranny, I was used to the layout and it rode great.

    I bought the Dodge because it had a Cummins - I wanted the BEST diesel engine around and the 7/70 power train was pretty good.

    (the fact that my wife liked leather seats that turned out to be heated and the sunroof had nothing whatsoever to do with my Choice! rotfl )

    So I guess I bought an engine and the body that was wrapped around it.

    Seems to be doing OK, it has around 3000 miles on it and I'm getting around 20 mpg on the freeway and 17 around town doesn't hurt.
     
  5. RJF's Red Cummins

    RJF's Red Cummins TRC Staff Moderator

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    They didn't, go to your local fleet dealer and you can get as many white, bare rubber floored, cloth bench, black or grey grille & bumper trucks you could possibly dream of. Like BadDog said, I don't get the "worse is better" thing either. You can order a work truck with or without all the fancy exterior and interior items. Usually refered to as base model and lariate, right?

    There is another factor, it's called technology. GM has come along way with torsion springs. They can get a cushy ride out of their front ends while being able to hold a fair amount of weight still. My front coil suspenion on my Dodge can hold up more weight than my grandfather's early Ford PSD truck...yet I have a better ride than him.....technology.
     
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    Agreed. Torsion bars and also the more conventional springs have come along, but even more so, new manufacturing techniques and efficiencies allow for better (and more consistent) designs in suspension geometry, shock valving, tires, isolation without disconnect, lower unsprung weight, and so on. You can have a truck today, that looks good, feels good, and can still haul just as much or more than the "old-school" trucks. The down side is they are MUCH more expensive too. Much of the currently available "luxury" was also available years ago, but the cost to add it then was much higher than even what we pay today.
     

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